1 00:00:07,909 --> 00:00:05,430 this again was footage just captured 2 00:00:09,830 --> 00:00:07,919 about an hour ago as the international 3 00:00:13,030 --> 00:00:09,840 space station was traveling overhead 4 00:00:14,950 --> 00:00:13,040 about 230 miles above the ocean 5 00:00:16,630 --> 00:00:14,960 and 6 00:00:18,550 --> 00:00:16,640 the cameras mounted on the exterior were 7 00:04:27,749 --> 00:00:18,560 able to capture these views of the 8 00:04:38,469 --> 00:04:32,390 i'm still stationed on two for merlin 9 00:04:43,670 --> 00:04:39,749 yeah i'm uh 10 00:04:45,749 --> 00:04:43,680 in the apm look in 0.5 c tv i'm in the 11 00:04:49,350 --> 00:04:45,759 gather section yet 12 00:04:51,749 --> 00:04:49,360 looking for in a 12 16 for a glacier 13 00:04:53,350 --> 00:04:51,759 tray there's nothing in here of that 14 00:04:55,189 --> 00:04:53,360 description 15 00:04:57,670 --> 00:04:55,199 i've looked throughout the volume this 16 00:05:00,070 --> 00:04:57,680 entire rack volume and it's done in this 17 00:05:02,469 --> 00:05:00,080 location a description of what we're 18 00:05:05,510 --> 00:05:02,479 looking for and other ideas would be 19 00:05:05,520 --> 00:06:20,070 we copied standby 20 00:06:26,150 --> 00:06:21,830 in this view you can see we're just 21 00:06:30,790 --> 00:06:28,390 baja peninsula just going out of view on 22 00:06:32,710 --> 00:06:30,800 the left-hand side and the ground track 23 00:06:36,469 --> 00:06:32,720 will be taking us just over guadalajara 24 00:06:42,790 --> 00:06:39,590 continuing northeasterly 25 00:06:44,950 --> 00:06:42,800 and to the lower right is acapulco 26 00:06:47,670 --> 00:06:44,960 joining us here on the console again is 27 00:06:49,110 --> 00:06:47,680 dr justin wilkinson who is part of the 28 00:06:50,790 --> 00:06:49,120 jsc 29 00:06:52,790 --> 00:06:50,800 earth observations team he is the 30 00:06:56,070 --> 00:06:52,800 principal geoscientist 31 00:06:59,909 --> 00:06:56,080 thank you so much for joining us again 32 00:07:01,990 --> 00:06:59,919 you're welcome thank you for having me 33 00:07:03,749 --> 00:07:02,000 it's great to have your expertise uh you 34 00:07:05,670 --> 00:07:03,759 of course are part of a small team that 35 00:07:07,430 --> 00:07:05,680 specializes in 36 00:07:09,589 --> 00:07:07,440 not only how to view the earth from 37 00:07:11,670 --> 00:07:09,599 space uh but also how to train the 38 00:07:13,589 --> 00:07:11,680 astronauts on how to view and make 39 00:07:15,350 --> 00:07:13,599 certain distinctions we talked 40 00:07:17,189 --> 00:07:15,360 previously about how to even distinguish 41 00:07:18,790 --> 00:07:17,199 smoke from clouds maybe you can talk to 42 00:07:20,469 --> 00:07:18,800 us a little bit about those types of 43 00:07:23,189 --> 00:07:20,479 things and the practical matters that 44 00:07:25,909 --> 00:07:23,199 you instruct astronauts on 45 00:07:27,510 --> 00:07:25,919 sure we we handle uh geography and 46 00:07:29,110 --> 00:07:27,520 geology but we also think about the 47 00:07:33,430 --> 00:07:29,120 atmosphere quite a bit 48 00:07:38,230 --> 00:07:35,350 dust are the things that we think about 49 00:07:39,510 --> 00:07:38,240 in particular for the atmosphere 50 00:07:40,469 --> 00:07:39,520 clouds 51 00:07:42,550 --> 00:07:40,479 are 52 00:07:44,950 --> 00:07:42,560 easy to spot once you get used to it 53 00:07:47,110 --> 00:07:44,960 because they have a sharp edge to them 54 00:07:49,350 --> 00:07:47,120 mostly and they're usually bright white 55 00:07:52,469 --> 00:07:49,360 everything else kind of 56 00:07:54,309 --> 00:07:52,479 is is duller and and has a much 57 00:07:55,909 --> 00:07:54,319 fuzzier aspect to it and so you can 58 00:07:58,150 --> 00:07:55,919 actually see smoke coming into the view 59 00:08:00,469 --> 00:07:58,160 right now clouds top left but smoke 60 00:08:02,070 --> 00:08:00,479 coming into the view on the right of the 61 00:08:04,230 --> 00:08:02,080 picture where you're kind of losing a 62 00:08:06,710 --> 00:08:04,240 lot of the sense of focus 63 00:08:08,309 --> 00:08:06,720 a lot of the detail on the ground 64 00:08:10,230 --> 00:08:08,319 on the right side of the view in the 65 00:08:12,950 --> 00:08:10,240 foreground there are dry 66 00:08:15,909 --> 00:08:12,960 salty valleys where you can see sharp 67 00:08:17,350 --> 00:08:15,919 definition but top right coming in there 68 00:08:19,670 --> 00:08:17,360 is that loss of definition that we 69 00:08:21,270 --> 00:08:19,680 associate with big smoke poles you often 70 00:08:23,589 --> 00:08:21,280 can't see where the smoke is coming from 71 00:08:24,550 --> 00:08:23,599 but almost for sure that is 72 00:08:26,309 --> 00:08:24,560 smoke 73 00:08:28,390 --> 00:08:26,319 from texas and probably from fires in 74 00:08:29,909 --> 00:08:28,400 northern mexico as well 75 00:08:31,990 --> 00:08:29,919 yeah we've heard about the smoke 76 00:08:33,430 --> 00:08:32,000 becoming a growing concern in fact i 77 00:08:35,269 --> 00:08:33,440 heard today some of the schools that are 78 00:08:36,469 --> 00:08:35,279 closed just due to the smoke coverage in 79 00:08:38,709 --> 00:08:36,479 the area 80 00:08:40,230 --> 00:08:38,719 i hadn't heard about school closings but 81 00:08:42,949 --> 00:08:40,240 i looked at a map this morning that 82 00:08:45,590 --> 00:08:42,959 showed that rather than than individual 83 00:08:47,350 --> 00:08:45,600 fires you see huge amounts of smoke so i 84 00:08:48,870 --> 00:08:47,360 mean the the smoke effect hundreds of 85 00:08:51,269 --> 00:08:48,880 miles from the source 86 00:08:53,430 --> 00:08:51,279 is starting to be really felt um 87 00:08:54,870 --> 00:08:53,440 especially around big cities where 88 00:08:57,110 --> 00:08:54,880 people who are 89 00:09:01,990 --> 00:08:57,120 who have lung complaints are being 90 00:09:05,990 --> 00:09:04,070 the vehicle is still traveling over 91 00:09:09,670 --> 00:09:06,000 mexico but i believe parts of texas are 92 00:09:11,030 --> 00:09:09,680 coming into view i was a 93 00:09:12,389 --> 00:09:11,040 kind of stunned the other day to hear 94 00:09:14,150 --> 00:09:12,399 mike mention that they were flying over 95 00:09:19,990 --> 00:09:14,160 chicago but they could still look back 96 00:09:23,350 --> 00:09:21,750 in the middle of the view is the city of 97 00:09:25,910 --> 00:09:23,360 austin you can't quite see it it's on 98 00:09:28,470 --> 00:09:25,920 the edge of the the dark line there 99 00:09:30,230 --> 00:09:28,480 and the bastrop fire is right next to it 100 00:09:32,150 --> 00:09:30,240 which is apparently 90 percent 101 00:09:34,550 --> 00:09:32,160 controlled so that you can't really see 102 00:09:36,949 --> 00:09:34,560 very much of the fire itself anymore but 103 00:09:39,590 --> 00:09:36,959 a bit to the right of that is a big 104 00:09:43,110 --> 00:09:39,600 diffuse mass which is uh where the fires 105 00:09:45,190 --> 00:09:43,120 are north of houston and in east texas 106 00:09:47,509 --> 00:09:45,200 um 107 00:09:49,670 --> 00:09:47,519 that smoke is is proceeding out to the 108 00:09:51,269 --> 00:09:49,680 south and you can see smoke going across 109 00:10:02,790 --> 00:09:51,279 the coastline at the bottom of the 110 00:10:07,190 --> 00:10:04,230 coming into the middle of the picture 111 00:10:09,350 --> 00:10:07,200 right now is another uh patch of white 112 00:10:13,190 --> 00:10:09,360 and uh that i believe is the biggest 113 00:10:14,949 --> 00:10:13,200 fire up in northeast texas and houston 114 00:10:16,710 --> 00:10:14,959 stationed mike and oran from the cupola 115 00:10:19,910 --> 00:10:16,720 as you can see the uh the fires are 116 00:10:24,470 --> 00:10:22,230 we are watching mike thanks 117 00:10:26,790 --> 00:10:24,480 once again 118 00:10:29,509 --> 00:10:26,800 unfortunately it doesn't look like uh 119 00:10:31,030 --> 00:10:29,519 no rain clouds near in this entire state 120 00:10:32,389 --> 00:10:31,040 and all the clouds we have looked like 121 00:10:36,870 --> 00:10:32,399 they're a smoke 122 00:10:41,430 --> 00:10:38,710 the line crossing the center of the view 123 00:10:44,230 --> 00:10:41,440 is the red river and the patch of white 124 00:10:46,150 --> 00:10:44,240 just below that in the picture is 125 00:10:47,269 --> 00:10:46,160 that combination of fires in northeast 126 00:10:48,949 --> 00:10:47,279 texas 127 00:10:51,990 --> 00:10:48,959 coming in the top of the view is is 128 00:10:53,750 --> 00:10:52,000 cloud and the uh the wide 129 00:10:55,590 --> 00:10:53,760 valley of the mississippi 130 00:11:09,990 --> 00:10:55,600 um kind of stretched diagonally across 131 00:11:13,990 --> 00:11:12,230 yeah we could see the the area actually 132 00:11:27,030 --> 00:11:14,000 you could see the burned area around the 133 00:11:30,230 --> 00:11:28,710 uh this is an oblique view that we're 134 00:11:32,069 --> 00:11:30,240 looking at at the moment on the screen 135 00:11:34,230 --> 00:11:32,079 but uh the astronaut is obviously 136 00:11:36,550 --> 00:11:34,240 looking straight beneath him because the 137 00:11:38,870 --> 00:11:36,560 pass is taking them right just east of 138 00:11:41,030 --> 00:11:38,880 texas 139 00:11:44,870 --> 00:11:41,040 for training purposes starting to moving 140 00:11:44,880 --> 00:11:58,870 gabby satoshi and we're watching thanks 141 00:12:02,629 --> 00:12:00,710 dr wilkinson i'm curious 142 00:12:04,470 --> 00:12:02,639 of this imagery is this being used by 143 00:12:05,190 --> 00:12:04,480 researchers as well we know that we've 144 00:12:06,550 --> 00:12:05,200 been 145 00:12:08,550 --> 00:12:06,560 making it available to the public and 146 00:12:11,269 --> 00:12:08,560 media and certainly mike's been watching 147 00:12:14,949 --> 00:12:11,279 but is this type of uh imagery also 148 00:12:17,350 --> 00:12:14,959 being re used by researchers or 149 00:12:19,990 --> 00:12:17,360 state workers it could certainly be we 150 00:12:23,430 --> 00:12:20,000 have actually used uh fire pictures of 151 00:12:24,949 --> 00:12:23,440 the earth to count fires globally so 152 00:12:26,550 --> 00:12:24,959 views like this 153 00:12:27,750 --> 00:12:26,560 are certainly useful scientifically i 154 00:12:29,829 --> 00:12:27,760 don't know whether these will be in 155 00:12:32,150 --> 00:12:29,839 particular but they certainly could be 156 00:12:33,670 --> 00:12:32,160 there are lots of sources of information 157 00:12:38,470 --> 00:12:33,680 on fires but these could certainly be 158 00:12:43,110 --> 00:12:40,790 in observations like uh mike reporting 159 00:13:14,629 --> 00:12:43,120 that he could even see the detail of 160 00:13:19,430 --> 00:13:16,949 and the space station continuing on a 161 00:13:22,389 --> 00:13:19,440 northeasterly track it's now just passed 162 00:13:24,150 --> 00:13:22,399 over arkansas and continuing on a track 163 00:13:26,069 --> 00:13:24,160 that will take it over 164 00:13:27,670 --> 00:13:26,079 it's approaching uh louisville and 165 00:13:29,829 --> 00:13:27,680 cincinnati 166 00:13:32,949 --> 00:13:29,839 so portions of texas out of view as far 167 00:13:35,430 --> 00:13:32,959 as this camera view but again another 168 00:13:38,389 --> 00:13:35,440 pass right over the state of texas and 169 00:13:40,790 --> 00:13:38,399 in this case directly above some of the 170 00:13:43,430 --> 00:13:40,800 bastrop area which has been one of the 171 00:13:44,230 --> 00:13:43,440 most highlighted areas an extensive site 172 00:13:47,590 --> 00:13:44,240 for 173 00:13:49,509 --> 00:13:47,600 the wildfires occurring in texas 174 00:13:50,870 --> 00:13:49,519 again thank you for joining us dr 175 00:13:53,590 --> 00:13:50,880 wilkinson we really appreciate your 176 00:13:55,910 --> 00:13:53,600 expertise and we'll continue to monitor 177 00:13:57,990 --> 00:13:55,920 these passes we know that your team is 178 00:13:59,590 --> 00:13:58,000 helping to identify these in advance for 179 00:14:01,509 --> 00:13:59,600 the crew and for researchers thank you